This is my personal view and comments on the issues and events that I feel a need to talk about or express my view. You don't have to agree, but lets carry on a adult, discussion and maybe you will see it the right way, mine. ;)
or else...:)
Published on June 16, 2004 By ShadowWar In Misc
Dear Civilians,

We know that the current state of affairs in our great nation has many civilians up in arms and excited to join the military.

For those of you who can't join, you can still lend a hand.

Here are a few of the areas requiring your assistance:

1. The next time you see an adult talking (or wearing a hat) during the
playing of the National Anthem ... kick their butt.

2. When you witness firsthand someone burning the American Flag in protest
.. kick their butt.

3. Regardless of the rank they held while they served, pay the highest
amount of respect to all veterans. If you see anyone doing otherwise,
quietly pull them aside and explain how these Veterans fought for the very
freedom they bask in every second. Enlighten them on the many sacrifices
these Veterans made to make this Nation great. Then hold them down while a
Disabled Veteran kicks their butt.

4. (GUYS) If you were never in the military, DO NOT pretend that you were.
Wearing battle dress uniforms (BDU's), telling others that you used to be
"Special Forces," and collecting GI Joe memorabilia, might have been okay
if you were still seven. Now, it will only make you look stupid and get your
butt kicked.

5. Next time you come across an Air Force member, do not ask them, "Do you
fly a jet?" Not everyone in the Air Force is a pilot. Such ignorance
deserves an butt kicking (children are exempt).

6. If you witness someone calling the U.S. Coast Guard non military, inform
them of their mistake ... and kick their butt.

7. Roseanne Barr's singing of the National Anthem is not a blooper ... it
was a disgrace and disrespectful. Laugh, and sooner or later your butt will
be kicked.

8. Next time Old Glory (U.S. flag) prances by during a parade, get on your
damn feet and pay homage to her by placing your hand over your heart.
Quietly thank the military member or veteran lucky enough to be carrying her
... of course, failure to do either of those could earn you a severe butt
kicking.

9. What Jane Fonda did during the Vietnam War makes her the enemy. The
proper word to describe her is "traitor," Just mention her nomination
for"Woman of the Year" and get your butt kicked.

10. Don't try to discuss politics with a military member or a
veteran. We are Americans and we all bleed the same regardless of our party
affiliation. Our Chain of Command is to include our
Commander in Chief. The President(for those who didn't know) is our CIC
regardless of political party. We have no inside track on what happens
inside those big important buildings where all those representatives meet.
All we know is that when those civilian representatives screw up the
situation, they call upon the military to go straighten it out. The military
member might direct you to Oliver North. (I can see him kicking your butt
already.)

11. "Your mama wears combat boots" never made sense to me ... stop saying
it! If she did, she would most likely be a vet and therefore, could kick
your butt!

12. Bin Laden and the Taliban are not communists, so stop saying "Let's go
kill those Commie's!!!" And stop asking us where he is!!!! Crystal balls
are not standard issue in the military. That reminds me ... if you see
anyone calling those damn psychic phone numbers, let me know, so I can go
kick their butt.

13. Flyboy (Air Force), Jar Head (Marines), Grunt (Army), Squid (Navy)
etc., are terms of endearment we use describing each other. Unless you are a
service member or vet, you have not earned the right to use them. That could
get your butt kicked.

14. Last but not least, whether or not you become a member of the military,
support our troops and their families. Every Thanksgiving and religious
holiday that you enjoy with family and friends, please remember that there
are literally thousands of sailors and troops far from home wishing they
could be with their families. Thank God for our military and the sacrifices
they make every day. Without them, our country would get its butt kicked.

"It is the Soldier, not the reporter Who has given us the freedom of the
press.

It is the Soldier, not the poet, Who has given us the freedom of speech.

It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer, Who gives us the
freedom to demonstrate.

It is the Soldier Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag, and
Whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the
flag."

Please listen so I won't have to kick your butt!


I got this from a friend of mine who also was in the service. Read it so I won't have to kick your butt..




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on Jun 18, 2004

I am not sure that focusing on flags or anthems or symbolism does anyone any good.


For those of us living in the United States: we should be good citizens.  Follow the laws, vote, clean your lawn, help out around town, don't make an ass out of yourself when traveling abroad, etc.  That's the way to make our country good.


I think that a lot of Americans get way too wrapped-up in their own national symbols. 


Every country has its own flag and national anthem.  So what?  It is just a marketing tool.  Street gangs have hand symbols and tags that they use as marketing tools too.


I like my life in America and I am a good citizen, I respect the forefathers and veterans; but I don't want to be so absorbed in symbolism.  I think that it distracts from the actual issues.

on Jun 18, 2004
The problem is that the flag doesn't just represent a single issue that they want it to represent. As I said, it'd be a better show to see them clean a dirty flag. The dirt could represent the problem that is bothering them, and they could show what they want to happen. Of course, it wouldn't have the shock value that burning a flag does, so they wouldn't do it.


I never thought of it like that I suppose... you are right... I dont think anyone jumps for joy when they burn a flag... they do it for shock value...

"I'm an ammendment to be , I said ammendment ot be, and I just hope that they will ratify me... because there are a lot of flag burners who have got to much freedom, I want to make it legal for policemen to beat them, cause there are limits to our liberty!!!"

Anywho... JB - you get an insightful... symbolism most certainly does detract from the real issues...

BAM!!!

on Jun 18, 2004
I knew I was opening a can of worms with this. Unforfortunately I am probably not articulate enough to explain my posistion succinctly, but I will give it a shot.

Which is more important, the symbol or the ideals which that symbol represents?

To me, the answer is that the ideals are far more important than the symbol. But unfortunately people tend to personalize symbols and therefore consider an attack on the symbol to be an attack on themselves, and react accordingly.

This is sad.



on Jun 19, 2004
Your a fucking jerk and people like you are the true disgrace by showing that your IQ is the same as a hamster (no disrespect hamsters) but try having someonge read this ridulous leter and then "ask them to kick your butt" you fucking lame
on Jun 20, 2004
I have to say for a good natured post some of you sure take life way to seriously.. Hey Tired of Idiots you must be really tired of yourself...
on Jul 30, 2004
Good post shadow. I dunno if i approve of kicking the crap outta people though.
on Aug 26, 2004
ShadowofWar: That was a good reply. Way to go..
on Aug 26, 2004
Being an Army wife and seeing the way other civilians act at times is very distressing. I enjoyed this post, Shadowwar, and some of the comments were, well, interesting. Keep up the good work!
on Aug 26, 2004

I think one of the reasons why I think that flag burning is so disrespectful is that the flag and its use has a legal set of rules with it.  If the flag needs to be decommissioned, the only proper way to discard it is in a ceremony were it is *respectfully* burned.  Yes, some may just view it as a "symbol", but try to tell a war vet who watched their buddy get blown up while trying to keep the flag raised that is "merely a symbol".


Respect is something that this country really lacks in this day and age.....but that is a totally different rant.

on Aug 26, 2004
Thanks for the article SW!
I got to teach my son's Cub scout troop how to burn and dispose of flags that are no longer
servicable. it was a privelege. We may bitch when we are on duty and have to put up the colors in the morning with everyone watching, but don't let me catch you running for the building so you won't have to stand at attention and salute. "I have some corrective training for you!"
on Sep 04, 2004
I prefer booting them in the head as opposed to kicking their butt....of course they usually have one up the other....
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