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One of the stupidist suggestions I have ever heard..
Published on February 23, 2006 By ShadowWar In Current Events
Shoot to hurt, pol urges cops

BY JOE MAHONEY
DAILY NEWS ALBANY BUREAU CHIEF

Thursday, February 23rd, 2006

ALBANY - Sen. David Paterson is pushing a bill that would require cops to shoot to wound, rather than using deadly force - drawing outrage from officers. (Wonder if he has ever tried to shoot a bad guy trying to harm or kill someone else?)

The bill also would create a new provision for second-degree manslaughter that would be reserved specifically for an officer who "uses more than the minimal amount necessary" to stop a crime suspect.

Paterson, who is on Eliot Spitzer's ticket as lieutenant governor, has reintroduced the bill twice since first sponsoring it in 2001, refusing to let it die.

In a memo urging its passage, Paterson wrote: "There is no justification for terminating another's life when a less extreme measure may accomplish the same objective."

Current law gives cops a wide berth(???) to use deadly force when a suspect presents a danger to another person's life.

Paterson (D-Harlem) wrote that a police officer, under his legislation, "would have to try toshoot a suspect in the arm or the leg."

"This bill shows absolutely no understanding of just how difficult it is for a police officer when they get into situations requiring the use of deadly force," John Grebert, director of the New York State Association of Chiefs of Police, told the Daily News.

His sentiment was echoed by Dan DeFedericis, president of the New York State Troopers PBA, who said: "We are definitely opposed to this bill ... and we strongly believe it could endanger the lives of police officers and innocent civilians."

While Spitzer already has the endorsement of the New York City Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, that group's Albany lobbyist, John Poklemba, said, "This bill is very ill conceived. I can't imagine any police agencies not being opposed to it."

Paterson told The News last night that his bill would safeguard the public. He explained that he wrote the bill in response to the acquittal of four NYPD officers charged in the 1999 shooting death of the unarmed Amadou Diallo in the Bronx.

"Many people were surprised the officers weren't guilty of something, criminally negligent homicide or something that involved some negligence," he said. "I thought I was writing the bill that really mirrored what the department rules are."

A Spitzer spokesman declined to comment. (LOL wonder why.)

Comments
on Feb 23, 2006
We now have a posterchild for "Legislating from Ignorance".

This total oxygen thief must be watching too many television shows and movies where the good guys take 50 shots to put down but bad guys can be taken out with a single shot from a snubnose .38.

I've treated patients with several bullet holes and they were still very conscious, active and often dangerous. My record was 23 bullet holes (but that was from a .22).

If you add some drugs to the picture, a hopped up gunwielder can take at lot of shots from a 9mm or even a .45 without losing consciousness.

This is nothing more than another politician using the police as his own little outrage mill, hoping to convince an ignorant constituency that he is tough on police brutality. When in actuality he is a violent criminal's best bud.
on Feb 23, 2006
Para I agree.

I have been on both ends of a bullet. And I can say when we shoot (police) we don't shoot to wound, we shoot to stop the threat. If that means killing the bad guy, then so be it. We are taught from the academy on to shoot at the biggest part of the target, the torso upper body area. If we had to aim for legs and arms or other areas, we would never be able to shoot anyone, and don't forget they are not bound by the dame rules so they get to shoot to kill anyway, regardless of the stupid law.
on Feb 23, 2006
Not only stupid law, but if this braindead politician does succeed in getting this passed he will be directly responsible for the deaths of many policemen in this country who are forced to hesitate before shooting.

People were outraged to hear Rap lyrics calling for the killing of cops. This murderer goes far below that and actually works to make laws that will get cops killed. He is lower than Tookie Williams.
on Feb 23, 2006
It was my understanding that "shoot to wound" used to be the norm until a few decades ago. Then, as I understand it, Liberals decided that cops were too trigger happy, and decided that they should only shoot in circumstances where their lives were threatened. Since you don't 'shoot to wound' when someone's life is threatened, police were mandated to make kill shots.

After all, you shoot someone in the leg and they can still shoot back. Worse, it's a buttload harder to shoot someone in the arm or leg than it is the torso. This is almost a reversal, only they STILL only want cops to shoot when their life is threatened, but now they wan't them to do even less to ensure the attacker is stopped.
on Feb 26, 2006
Since you don't 'shoot to wound' when someone's life is threatened, police were mandated to make kill shots.
After all, you shoot someone in the leg and they can still shoot back. Worse, it's a buttload harder to shoot someone in the arm or leg than it is the torso.

Just pray your perp doesn't have his own weapon.

Or is too busy running across a frozen lake away from the woodchipper to turn around and fire back. (Name that film!)
on Feb 27, 2006
fargo