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The begining of the end of Al-Q???
Published on June 15, 2006 By ShadowWar In Current Events
As many here know I am in Law Enforcement and specifically Computer Crime Investigation, Computer Forensics. This is good stuff, you can recover data from these drives just like regular HD's. Nothing you delete is really gone most of the time. This story thats why I like this story so much. Its about what you can find on these things and what a positive it is for the fight on Terrorist in Iraq.
 
 
BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraq's national security adviser said Thursday a "huge treasure" of documents and computer records seized after the raid on terror leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's hideout has given the Iraqi government the upper hand in its fight against al-Qaeda in Iraq.

Iraqi National Security Adviser Mouwafak al-Rubaie also estimated that a large number of U.S.-led forces will leave Iraq by the end of this year, and a majority will be gone by the end of next year. "And maybe the last soldier will leave Iraq by mid-2008," he said.

Al-Rubaie said a laptop, flashdrive and other documents were found in the debris after the airstrike that killed the al-Qaeda in Iraq leader last week outside Baqouba, and more information has been uncovered in raids of other insurgent hideouts since then.

He called it a "huge treasure ... a huge amount of information."

When asked how he could be sure the information was authentic, al-Rubaie said "there is nothing more authentic than finding a thumbdrive in his pocket."

"We believe that this is the beginning of the end of al-Qaeda in Iraq," al-Rubaie said, adding that the documents showed al-Qaeda is in "pretty bad shape," politically and in terms of training, weapons and media.

"Now we have the upper hand," he said, speaking in English and Arabic at a news conference in Baghdad. "We feel that we know their locations, the names of their leaders, their whereabouts, their movements, through the documents we found during the last few days."

"They did not anticipate how powerful the Iraqi security forces are and how the government is on the attack now," al-Rubaie said, expressing optimism that the government would be able "to destroy al-Qaeda and to finish this terrorist organization in Iraq."

He said the documents, which he promised to release gradually after investigations were finished, would reveal details about the inner workings of the terror group and show how "al-Qaeda is using everyone as a pawn to play in this wargame, in this game of killing Iraqi people and destroying this country."

They "will show how their central strategy is to divide and destroy," he said.


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on Jun 15, 2006
That is great news.  And yes, as I tried to explain to one guy here, just because data is deleted, does not mean it is not recoverable.
on Jun 15, 2006

, I happen to be in JAx, Fla teaching a computer forensics class this week and we talked about thumb drives and how you can recover all the deleted images and files from them using the right HW/SW combonations. We recovered images from one students thumb drive that were 5 years old!! And he thought that they had been gone for good. They were not flattering photos to say the least..

This news about the thumb drive off of the terrorist body cracks me up. It goes to show you, what you have on you evene though you thinks its safe, can be gotten by the right means and people.

 

on Jun 15, 2006

Here is what the Iraqi Government added to the statement:

Holding one of them in his hand, Rubaie added:

"I present to you a document that was found in one of Zarqawi's computers that reveals many dangerous things and gives details on strategy and plans of the al Qaeda terrorist organisation in Iraq."

Zarqawi, blamed for a campaign of beheadings and bombings that killed hundreds of people, died in a U.S. air strike north of Baghdad on June 7.

Iraqi and U.S. officials have hailed his death as a major blow to al Qaeda, while cautioning that it would not end violence.

Rubaie said the documents showed that al Qaeda's central strategy was to "divide, destroy and rule".

He added: "These documents have given us the edge over al Qaeda and (they) also gave us the whereabouts of their network, of their leaders, of their weapons and the way they lead the organisation and the whereabouts of their meetings."

Al Qaeda has vowed to fight on and its new leader in Iraq, little known Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, vowed in a Web statement earlier this week to avenge Zarqawi's death.

Good stuff there, I hope it helps kill a few more of them..

on Jun 17, 2006
theres a sucker born every minute.

there was no TREASURE TROVE of information ... its all planted.

Think back to the scene in the Minority Report ... where Colin Farrell walks into the apt of the child molestor and sees
tons of INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE ... exactly what he needed to pin the crime on the guy

dude if you are in law enforcement and cant make that connection ... I truly fear for all the "innocents" you may have
busted
on Jun 17, 2006
theres a sucker born every minute.

there was no TREASURE TROVE of information ... its all planted.


I imagine you go through a lot of tinfoil hats.
on Jun 17, 2006
>I imagine you go through a lot of tinfoil hats.

call it what you want friend ... apparently "thinking" is frowned upon in these parts.

In a country beseiged ... with less than 3 hours of electricity a day, bombed infrastructure, no running water ...
"the terrorists" someone manage to get the latest computer hardware ... (probably a direct line to DELL or PEOPLE PC) and
are able to stock their harddrives with

EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO SEE ... DOWN TO THE LATEST TALKING POINTS FROM THE PENTAGON CRASS

AMAZING!!!
after all the lies ...
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT ... I HAVE BRIDGE TO SELL YOU
on Jun 17, 2006
I imagine you go through a lot of tinfoil hats.


No, but a lot of anti-acids as that is all that keeps his bile in check. That is what he is. The green stuff that comes up with an upchuck. He is very good at that.
on Jun 17, 2006
Some time ago we were told that Jessica Lynch was the super soldier. I doubted it and I told my friends ... who laughed at
me. I pointed out that if you take time to scour through foreign media sources youll see that many state clearly that Iraqi
Soldiers had carried her to the hospital ... where Doctors later attempted a handover to our Soldiers

Then she comes back ... we find that our blond/blue-eyed girl was no super soldier
Oddly enough ... she "loses" her memory, especially the part we are disputing.

What likely happened is she was approached and told: "look, we will give you an honorable discharge and tuition money ...
just play along or shut up"

Sometime ago we were told Pat Tilman died at the hands of the enemy ... I made it known to my friends again that Pat had
actually turned against the army ... based on his letters home to mom ... and that he was either pushed to the front lines
or died from Friendly fire ...

Again they laughed ... until the "difficult" details started to emerge

So it went on with `:
WMD
NAPALM use
DAILY MY LAI murders
"TERRORISTS"
"AL QUEDA"
etc
etc
etc
etc
etc
etc


Most people around me, dont doubt anymore and most get their news (NOW) from foreign sources ... as our media is pure
propaganda. Most now keep their tv's off or watch it for laughter

lately:
I also predicted that after the "ACTOR" (aka Zaqawi') death ... there would be a new Emmanuel Goldstein

Somehow the Pentagon manages to get the Zaqawi replacements picture' and background info.

Ask yourself ... if you were leading Al Queda and your leader was assasinated (play along with me here) would you say
ANYTHING about your new leadership?

Why would you go then on an internet forum and announce that you have a new leader ?
...
and how is it POSSIBLE that the Pentagon has his picture and intimidate background almost the next day ...?

Assuming there is an "Al Queda" (play along with me here) either the group is TOTALLY PENETRATED, CIA/MOSSAD ASSETS or
they dont exist

In the first case ... why have they not all been captured?
So the second or third case must be true ... by process of elimination and a dose of common sense

carryon

on Jun 17, 2006
I want some of what rombios is smokin' - there may come a time when I want to completely escape reality, too.
on Jun 17, 2006
#9 by Daiwa
Sat, June 17, 2006 9:49 PM




I want some of what rombios is smokin' - there may come a time when I want to completely escape reality, too.


It's probably Labrador.
on Jun 18, 2006

rambios,

theres a sucker born every minute.

there was no TREASURE TROVE of information ... its all planted.

Think back to the scene in the Minority Report ... where Colin Farrell walks into the apt of the child molestor and sees
tons of INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE ... exactly what he needed to pin the crime on the guy

dude if you are in law enforcement and cant make that connection ... I truly fear for all the "innocents" you may have
busted

Are you talking to yourself?? Remember how you once commented how you and I WERE able to carry on a discussion without the stupid name calling and personal attacks. Guess you forgot. Oh and for your info, I never have arrested (26 years now) a person 'I thought was innocent'. Or I would not have arrested them.. Never had to plant stuff either, to many criminals carry the stuff on them for me to find.

BTW Minority Report is a "FICTICIOUS MOVIE", do you know the difference??

on Jun 18, 2006
Oh and Rambios, I challenege you to tell me how many cell phone users there are in Iraq now as compared to pre war. Thats a direct question that simply requires a number. Oh and also the Laptops and HD's and things have been reported on since the begginning of the war by the Washington Post, CNN, ABC, and all the other MSM. Since I dont trust them, I guess you don't trust them also. Trust anyone??
on Jun 18, 2006
rombios notwithstanding. theres something weird about the nature of busts. and all this war on terra crap.
we keep finding what we need to keep the occupation going ...

usually when something is too good to be true. it usually is.
on Jun 18, 2006
we keep finding what we need to keep the occupation going ...


If that were the case, we would have found a big ass stockpile of WMDs by now, doncha think?
on Jun 18, 2006
>If that were the case, we would have found a big ass stockpile of WMDs by now, doncha think?

no ... you cant plant WMD's ... you need support structures to prove said "wmd" was manufactured "here" or "there"
I am sure we attempted to plant it ... but couldnt get away with it ... it will invite OPEN SUSPICION especially from the
international organizations that conducted the searches before we invaded.

You cant make the sort of chemical and biological agents we alleged they still had ... in your basement
which is why the mobile laboratory joke was exactly that ... a joke
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