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Vietnam war museum includes candidate among feted activists
Published on June 16, 2004 By ShadowWar In Politics
A veterans group opposed to Sen. John Kerry's presidential candidacy says it has further proof the Massachusetts senator is being honored as an anti-war activist by communist Vietnam at a museum in Ho Chi Minh City.

The War Remnants Museum – formerly known as the War Crimes Museum – includes a photograph of Kerry being greeted by the general secretary of the Communist Party, Comrade Do Muoi, in July 1993, according to Vietnam Vets for the Truth.

Vietnam veteran Bill Lupetti took this photograph of a display at a Ho Chi Minh City museum honoring war protesters.

A picture of the display was taken in May by Bill Lupetti, one of more than 200 members of Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth who signed an open letter questioning Kerry's fitness to serve as commander in chief.

A spokesman with Kerry's national campaign has not returned a call from WND seeking comment.

Vets for the Truth says it's not questioning the legitimacy of Kerry meeting with communist leaders in pursuit of information about POWs and MIAs, the aim of his congressional delegation in 1993.

"The critical issue is that the Vietnamese communists have chosen to honor Senator Kerry in their War Crimes Museum for his assistance in helping them achieve victory over the United States," the group says.

Vets for the Truth points out the sign at the entrance to the display room reads: "The World Supports Vietnam in its Resistance."

Also exhibited inside the room are protest banners and emblems from various nations and photographs of international leaders who supported North Vietnam's cause.

After several members questioned the authenticity of the Lupetti's first photograph, Vets for the Truth asked him to return to the museum this month and document the section featuring the foreign anti-war activists. The group also asked Dan Tran of the Vietnam Human Rights Project to have his associates in Ho Chi Minh Citiy go into the museum to verify it.

Tran's contacts confirmed that the photograph is still in the museum.

Some members of the U.S. media also questioned whether Kerry was in Vietnam July 13-18, 1993.

The AP reported July 17, 1993, a U.S. delegation headed by Deputy Secretary of Veterans Affairs Hershel Gober was sent to Vietnam by President Clinton to deliver to the Vietnamese microfilm of some 3 million captured Vietnam War documents related to finding American POWs and MIAs. The story says the delegation was scheduled to meet with Do Muoi.

While the story does not mention Kerry, a White House press release July 2, 1993, mentioned Kerry and the "high-level delegation," which included represenatives of three major veterans groups.

Epstein said the display photograph's "unquestionable significance lies in its placement in the American protesters' section of the War Crimes Museum" in Ho Chi Minh City, the former Saigon.

"The Vietnamese communists clearly recognize John Kerry's contributions to their victory," he said. "This find can be compared to the discovery of a painting of Neville Chamberlain hanging in a place of honor in Hitler's Eagle's Nest in 1945."

Epstein's group says the exhibit refutes Kerry's insistence his anti-war protests did not render support to the enemy in time of war.

"The Vietnamese communists clearly feel that the American anti-war protesters were a very important force in undermining support in the United States for American war efforts, a force that contributed materially to ultimate communist victory in 1975," the group said in a statement.

Vietnam Vets for the Truth says it was established to organize a rally publicizing "Kerry's lies" during the "Winter Soldier" hearings in the U.S. Senate in 1971. The rally, called "Kerry Lied," will be held on Capitol Hill Sept. 12.

The Swift Boat Veterans also have called on Kerry to stop unauthorized use of their images in national campaign advertising.The group says only two of the 20 officers in one photo support him and 11 have signed the letter condemning the candidate.

Now this is a little frightening. This man may be President of the USA??

Comments
on Jun 16, 2004

You can try to paint $600 million dollar man John Kerry as a communist and try to paint antiwar protestors as communist...but nobody's buying it. Commie scare tactics don't work anymore because Russia is not commie, the Eastern Bloc is in NATO now, China has the 3rd most amount of millionaires of any nation, so they're aren't many communists left anymore anywhere, let alone America. This should've been titled "More evidence Bush is losing election; Republicans resorting to 1950s style Red Scare tactics".
on Jun 16, 2004
So what is being said here is that if Kerry was involved in trying to stop a war he is a) a communist, a traitor, c) a liar and hypocrite, or d) all of the above.

So George W Bush being the son of Bush Sr, being intimately involved in the oil industry and sending many, many people to their state sanctioned deaths as govenor of Texas would make him a) the anti-christ, a raper of the earth, c) a cold blooded killer, or d) all of the above.

I don't agree with either of the summations of the two candidates. I don't believe the media representations of either of the cadidates. All i know is that these are two men that want power and in this quest will necessarily involve themselves and others in character assasination and the dirty games of high stakes politics.

What i do feel safe in saying is that neither of them have gotten to where they are by being perfectly honest with the public they are trying to swoon.

I will also not forget that in the elections Americans will not only be voting for a president, they will be voting for a whole administration. I hope this is not lost in a political contest that seems to resemble a who's-the-toughest-mother free for all.

Marco
on Jun 16, 2004
Since when is it against the rules to have a civil and diplomatic conversation with someone whose politics you don't agree with? The US and the Vietnamese caused each other a lot of grief. It's beautiful that leaders from both sides can reconcile their differences and meet as human beings of common interest and common concern. That's what diplomacy is all about. That's why people do not criticize Bush for his close family relationship with Bin Ladens and the Saudi Royal family.
on Jun 16, 2004
if you're going to post attacks on presidential candidates you should make sure your guy hasn't an even worse skeleton in his closet. you should have posted this before the audio tapes from the enron crooks bragging about how they want bush as president and how enron is the number one contributor to his campaign (used to be biggest, whgen they were recorded. campaign contribution record has been surpassed for a while).

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connelly/176931_joel09.html
"You know who the biggest contributor is to Bush?" said one {enron} trader. The voice on the other end of the line wonders if anybody gave more money, or loaned out the corporate jet more often, than the big "E."

"Ken Lay is going to be secretary of energy," the first voice jokes.

"That would be awesome," says the voice on the other end of the line.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/01/eveningnews/main620626.shtml
"When this election comes Bush will f------g whack this s--t, man. He won't play this price-cap b------t."
on Jun 17, 2004
Especially to a non-American like myself, these threads are always extremely funny. The stereotypes of "conservative" and "liberal", with the liberal being dangerously close to being a "communist".....

Rest assured people, in a European context, George Bush would be a religous right nutter (in my country, his party would get about 3 to 5% of the votes) and Kerry would be a on the right wing of the Liberal party, a party that is already on the, hold on...... right side of the political spectre over here. America is an extremely right-wing country and in our context, the differences between the candidates are marginal. The people who are seriously thinking John Kerry actually has a communist agenda are completely lost.
on Jun 17, 2004
ShadowWar:
I thought you were against "name calling"? Or is it selective name calling, as in, I can call ANYONE I want anything I want, but, don't you dare call anyone on the right anything but Mister? BTW, if you call Kerry a communist, doesn't that make his best friend in the Senate, John McCain pretty close to either stupid or blind or both? Just wondering....
on Jun 18, 2004

In reference to your preivious article, you have forgotten that Kerry is an honorable veteran and you should get a kick in the butt.

on Jun 18, 2004
In reference to your preivious article, you have forgotten that Kerry is an honorable veteran and you should get a kick in the butt.


You took the words right out of my mouth.
on Jun 18, 2004
Oh no, if I ever get to meet Bush in person, I'll remember to not shake his hand. I do not want to be lumped into any category that supports him or anything he does.
on Jun 18, 2004
lmaotsetung

"and if that traitor kerry ever goes back to vietnam, get ho chi minh to pose with hm just like this"