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Published on June 23, 2004 By ShadowWar In Current Events
Islamic teachings, history suggest it’s not quite so peaceful

Every day, I feel bombarded by someone telling me Islam is not the violent, hate-filled religion it seems to be but, instead, the religion of peace.
I don’t see how anyone logically could say Islam is a religion of peace. The terrorists who attacked this nation on Sept. 11, 2001, were Islamic fundamentalists, terrorists following the teachings of the Quran and doing Allah’s bidding in bringing down the great Satan.

Islamic leaders have pushed forth the notion that every good Muslim must fight and destroy the non-believers.

The Quran makes it very clear Muslims “must” present non-Muslims with only three choices: conversion, submission to second-class status under Islamic rule or death.

The problem is not strictly the directive to convert or kill non-believers, but instead the degree to which it is carried out. Islam is not the religion of peace it claims to be. It instead appears - through the actions of its followers - to be a religion of intolerance and violence toward non-believers.

We only need to go back to recent history to understand Islam’s widely reported “peaceful teachings” are most often “misunderstood” by its most fundamental followers.

In the early 1990s, the United States sent peacekeeping troops to Somalia on a mercy mission to stop starvation in the region. Instead, local Muslims fought the non-believers for their offense of being non-Muslim.

Why do you think that every time we pressured Saddam Hussein, he appealed to his Islamic brothers to come to his aid in the name of Jihad? Because strictly implying that any action against any Muslim is an attack on their religion is a simple, easy way to get support.

Like clockwork, protest in the Muslim world would erupt. Soon on CNN, you would see President Clinton - back when he was president and believed Saddam was bad - or Bush burning in effigy next to a flaming, American flag and 10,000 Muslims dancing and chanting “Death to America” in the name of Allah.

How peaceful.

It would seem the religion of “peace” and “tolerance” would be for co-existence and getting along with your neighbors. Instead, the Palestinians have made it clear they can’t live side-by-side in peace with non-believers. And the only answer for that region is going to be the extermination of Israel - the death of every man, woman and child in Israel is the only road to peace.

In the name of Allah, suicide bombers are martyrs to be rewarded with paradise and virgins. This is not the exception to the rule in Islam. It is the doctrine of extermination of non-Muslims.

When people speak of Islam as a religion of radicalism and intolerance, they are told the religion is misrepresented and misunderstood. The problem is not a public relations issue. It is an indoctrination issue.

Everywhere but in the modernized world, where its teaching are much more moderate, young Muslims are taught in school that all non-Muslims should be killed in the same way we are taught that we need to be compassionate to those different from us.

The solution is not to deny the problem as the Muslims of the world have done, but to accept, educate and change it.


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on May 13, 2005
I have a comment to that i was born here and so was my parents in so forth. Islam is a peaceful religion and is probaly the most peaceful. The terrorist who attacked the world trade center were muslims but were not attacking the USA because they are muslims or because they are in the Islamic religion untill you find something in our holy book that says to kill people and blow up everything then you can say we are a dangerous religion. And one more thing the Oklahoma bombings wasn't that a white man who was not muslim what can you say about him? Jihad is not when muslims fight everyone else it is belived when the day of judgement comes We the muslims and all God's followers will group together to fight off the devils. Not to kill innocent people.
on May 13, 2005
Ever heard of the Crusades?

Would that be the first Crusade when Muslims invaded Christian and Jewish lands, destroying churches and temples, forcing people to "convert or die" at the point of a sword?
Or the second Crusade when the Christian nations responded by invading and trying to take back the same Christin and Jewish lands?

I know Muslims who are peaceful, loving people so I know not all Muslims believe in the hate teachings of extremist Muslims. But there is no denying that there are a great number of such extremists who do preach hatred.

I know the Islamic Holy Book does teach that Muslims should respect the "people of the book" meaning Jews and Christians. Sadly the message of hate and killing is preached far more loudly and often in some places.
on Nov 01, 2006
If you want to talk logically,go deeply and know whats the Islam meaning,its not about islam or any releagen,its about moslims,not every moslim is a good believer,like any other relagions U well find good and bad people,tell me if it is wright to kill innocent people in palestine by joe like U,????
on Nov 01, 2006
Would that be the first Crusade when Muslims invaded Christian and Jewish lands, destroying churches and temples, forcing people to "convert or die" at the point of a sword?
Or the second Crusade when the Christian nations responded by invading and trying to take back the same Christin and Jewish lands?


Hmmm. Christian crusades? Spanish inquisition?


know Muslims who are peaceful, loving people so I know not all Muslims believe in the hate teachings of extremist Muslims. But there is no denying that there are a great number of such extremists who do preach hatred.


I don't deny that, but folks need to start pulling their heads out of their canyons, and not be so willfully ignorant. They need to realize that there are differences between those terrorists who are islamic, and those who are not. (those who ARE peaceful)

Like clockwork, protest in the Muslim world would erupt. Soon on CNN, you would see President Clinton - back when he was president and believed Saddam was bad - or Bush burning in effigy next to a flaming, American flag and 10,000 Muslims dancing and chanting “Death to America” in the name of Allah.


Hmmm, and what about christian americans protesting, with such things like that?

on Nov 01, 2006
The solution is not to deny the problem as the Muslims of the world have done, but to accept, educate and change it.


Accept it and change it? It will probably never change, they will always be a bunch of lunatics, sprouting their rubbish into the ears of their children sending them to commit suicide or to spread their hatred.

They either need to update, or find a way to make their beliefs jive with modern international law.


This will probably not happen much beyond the current situation we see in some muslim countries. If anything, it will probably get worse and return to older ways with all the crappy indoctrination that is being pumped into the youngsters heads these days by the extremists.

The Quran makes it very clear Muslims “must” present non-Muslims with only three choices: conversion, submission to second-class status under Islamic rule or death


MF's! I'll 2nd class their ass! Give me a suitable weapon and I will give them a "conversion" they will never forget!

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on Nov 02, 2006
Whoever said that there are lunatics in every religion, organization, government, community, and group of any kind in existence, which doesnt represent the whole group, has it more right then anybody else.

The current wave of Anti-Islam is not much more then, war on terror, is just like all the other wars, we pick up a cause for a while until something new comes along that seems like a world changer or really sucks and has to be dealt with. War on terror, before that war on drugs, war on aids, war on poverty, war on racism (Civil rights) war against facism, war against poverty again, You know the USA sure does a lot of war making on it's own to be honest, and guess what the majority of us aren't Muslim, omg yet, da daaa daaaaaaaaaa!

Relax folks. Kill the terrorists, or lock em up, throw away the key, (after due process i.e. a trial) embrace the scapegoats, and move on in life.
on Nov 02, 2006
and guess what the majority of us aren't Muslim, omg yet, da daaa daaaaaaaaaa!


Amerabia?   
on Nov 03, 2006
Well it's true. About 3/4 consider themselved to be Christian. If religion is the ruler you measure by.

People are people, if you want to divide them into groups of segments of groups and then assign characteristics to that group with no scientific basis that's racist. If you do it with scientific basis that's demographics. Saying any and all followers of a particular religion are terrorists or criminals, or that all terrorists are folowers of Islam is racist.

Like saying all women are bitches or all bitches are women. Comments, ideals, like that, are forms of discrimination, and doing so doesn't regard individual merit. What would Martin Luther King say about that?

He'd say it sounds awfully like racial profiling.

"If your twin brother robs a bank in your hometown, it does not seem to be a civil rights issue if the police stop you on the street for questioning. When the police discover their mistake, they should apologize and make you whole for any damages you have suffered. Such an event, while unfortunate, is simply a byproduct of attempting to enforce laws in a world of error-prone human beings possessing less-than-perfect knowledge. It will be a rare event in law-abiding citizens' lives, and it is highly unlikely that such people will come to feel that they are being targeted."

Not unless you are repeatedly targeted, over and over and over, and the media blasts your religion as non-peace loving. If nobody rejects the idea, if the only ones heard, are the extremists, because they are louder, knowing they will be heard because of the violence and outrageousness of their actions, then the silent majority protesting the deeds performed, by the extremist minority will not be heard. Certainly not by the 10 second sound byte media, and talking heads, nobody will strain to hear the whisper, or listen against overwhelming perceived evidence to the contrary.

That is unfair unjust and unlawful for any other group of people we would the ones protesting but in this case lots of people seem to conclude that Muslim = Terrorist or vice versa.

Why should we abandon our laws our values of fair and equal justice under the law in this situation? Should not any individual be given the basic unalienable rights? Even Muslims? Should we not treat all individuals equally and expect the same treament ourselves?
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