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This is my personal view and comments on the issues and events that I feel a need to talk about or express my view. You don't have to agree, but lets carry on a adult, discussion and maybe you will see it the right way, mine. ;)
Just in case the left didn't hear this...our Strategy for Winning in Iraq..
Silly me I thought we didn't have any, becasue the left keeps asking for it...
Published on December 7, 2005 By
ShadowWar
In
Politics
Just in case you ever hear someone say we do not have a strategy for winning in Iraq, you can ask them to read this.
Victory in Iraq is Defined in Stages
* Short term
, Iraq is making steady progress in fighting terrorists, meeting political milestones, building democratic institutions, and standing up security forces.
* Medium term
, Iraq is in the lead defeating terrorists and providing its own security, with a fully constitutional government in place, and on its way to achieving its economic potential.
* Longer term
, Iraq is peaceful, united, stable, and secure, well integrated into the international community, and a full partner in the global war on terrorism.
Strategy for Victory is Clear
* We will help the Iraqi people build a new Iraq with a constitutional, representative government that respects civil rights and has security forces sufficient to maintain domestic order and keep Iraq from becoming a safe haven for terrorists. To achieve this end, we must pursue an integrated strategy along three broad tracks , which together incorporate the efforts of the Iraqi government, the Coalition, cooperative countries in the region, the international community, and the United Nations.
*
The Political Track
involves working to forge a broadly supported national compact for democratic governance by helping the Iraqi government:
o Isolate enemy elements from those who can be won over to the political process by countering false propaganda and demonstrating to all Iraqis that they have a stake in a democratic Iraq ;
o Engage those outside the political process and invite in those willing to turn away from violence through ever-expanding avenues of participation; and
o Build stable, pluralistic, and effective national institutions that can protect the interests of all Iraqis, and facilitate Iraq 's full integration into the international community.
The Security Track
involves carrying out a campaign to defeat the terrorists and neutralize the insurgency, developing Iraqi security forces, and helping the Iraqi government:
o Clear areas of enemy control by remaining on the offensive, killing and capturing enemy fighters and denying them safe-haven;
o Hold areas freed from enemy influence by ensuring that they remain under the control of the Iraqi government with an adequate Iraqi security force presence; and
o Build Iraqi Security Forces and the capacity of local institutions to deliver services, advance the rule of law, and nurture civil society.
The Economic Track
involves setting the foundation for a sound and self-sustaining economy by helping the Iraqi government:
o Restore Iraq 's infrastructure to meet increasing demand and the needs of a growing economy;
o Reform Iraq 's economy, which in the past has been shaped by war, dictatorship, and sanctions, so that it can be self-sustaining in the future; and
o Build the capacity of Iraqi institutions to maintain infrastructure, rejoin the international economic community, and improve the general welfare of all Iraqis.
Our Victory Strategy Is (and Must Be) Conditions Based
* With resolve, victory will be achieved, although not by a date certain.
o No war has ever been won on a timetable and neither will this one.
* But lack of a timetable does not mean our posture in Iraq (both military and civilian) will remain static over time. As conditions change, our posture will change.
o We expect, but cannot guarantee, that our force posture will change over the next year, as the political process advances and Iraqi security forces grow and gain experience.
o While our military presence may become less visible, it will remain lethal and decisive, able to confront the enemy wherever it may organize.
o Our mission in Iraq is to win the war. Our troops will return home when that mission is complete.
Oh and in case you are interested in where this came from.. LOL of all silly places our Presidents Office.
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stevendedalus
on Dec 09, 2005
These are wishful objectives; strategy must have options to address resistance to these objectives.
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bigrickstallion
on Dec 09, 2005
Great. Now all they need to do is pay someone to print the "Happy Story" about how successful the execution of this strategy has been and maybe a few more of us will begin to believe it.
God knows reporting the facts wont cut it.
of all silly places our Presidents Office
Nothing quite like an independant news source.
When was this strategy released? Just recently or sometime ago? I can only get a date of 30 Nov 2005. In which case i'd have to say "Thank god for the "liberals", without their constant pressure it seems there wouldn't be one [strategy]"
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bigrickstallion
on Dec 09, 2005
Victory in Iraq is Defined in Stages
lmao. Hasn't Bush already paraded himself about on an aircraft carrier and proclaimed "Victory"?
Victory in Iraq is a Vital U.S. Interest
Doesn't that say it all. So whats woith all thr rhetoric about "democracy for the Iraqi people."
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bigrickstallion
on Dec 09, 2005
Victory in Iraq is Defined in Stages
lmao. Hasn't Bush already paraded himself about on an aircraft carrier and proclaimed "Victory"?
Victory in Iraq is a Vital U.S. Interest
Doesn't that say it all. So whats woith all thr rhetoric about "democracy for the Iraqi people."
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bigrickstallion
on Dec 09, 2005
Victory in Iraq is Defined in Stages
lmao. Hasn't Bush already paraded himself about on an aircraft carrier and proclaimed "Victory"?
Victory in Iraq is a Vital U.S. Interest
Doesn't that say it all. So whats with all the rhetoric about "democracy for the Iraqi people."
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Island Dog
on Dec 09, 2005
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singrdave
on Dec 09, 2005
Rick:
Here's the link to the website hosting the
National Strategy for Victory in Iraq
, including a complete PDF file of the document. You are right, it was published on November 30th.
Victory in Iraq is a Vital U.S. Interest
Doesn't that say it all. So whats with all the rhetoric about "democracy for the Iraqi people."
No, Rick, it doesn't say it all. You quoted, let's see... eight words from a mega document. It looks like a headline, too - taken from a chapter heading from Part I, the Overview of the War.
This is clearly written for those favoring an immediate troop withdrawal and addresses their concerns about why it's in our own best interest to stay. The Iraqis are being helped, and their concerns are being addressed in the book, too.
Like in other chapter headings from the same section:
Our Enemies and Their Goals, Why Our Strategy Is (and Must Be) Conditions-Based,
and
Our Strategy Tracks and Measures Progress.
Part II goes into precise strategies for the defeat of the insurgency and the eventual establishment of democracy in Iraq.
In which case i'd have to say "Thank god for the "liberals", without their constant pressure it seems there wouldn't be one [strategy]"
I will definitely concede that point, since if it wasn;t for the constant name-calling, demeaning language, dissing of the troops, personal attacks on the president, calling for troop withdrawals, justification for more money, umbrage taken for that more money...
then no, a published document wouldn't have been needed.
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DJBandit
on Dec 09, 2005
You know how people are these days. They think because we have better weapons than before that wars should be done in a 1 2 3. But here's the funny part, sure we could have finished this a few weeks after we started, but that would have meant that every building in Iraq would not be standing, every animal would be dead, but worst of all the only Iraqis alive would have been those outside of Iraq. But then if we had done that we would have been considered monsters. So it's a lose lose situation. No pleasing the Dems.
In which case i'd have to say "Thank god for the "liberals", without their constant pressure it seems there wouldn't be one [strategy]"
In the words of Manson himself:
"I don't want you and I don't need you
Don't bother to resist, I'll beat you
It's not your fault that you're always wrong
The weak ones are there to justify the strong"
Lyrics from The Beautiful People by MARILYN MANSON
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ParaTed2k
on Dec 09, 2005
The Democrat party is too busy figuring out the best way to lose to pay any attention to the strategy for winning. Apparently, the only definition of "winning" they recognize includes a Democrat in the oval office in 2008.
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Dr Guy
on Dec 09, 2005
Reply By: Island Dog
Posted: Friday, December 09, 2005
Great one!
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bigrickstallion
on Dec 09, 2005
No, Rick, it doesn't say it all. You quoted, let's see... eight words from a mega document. It looks like a headline, too - taken from a chapter heading from Part I, the Overview of the War.
Precisely. I dunno they bothered to wrap these "8 words" with so much other guff when these are so clear,concise and succinct.
Heres a more realistic article about the future of the US in Iraq. Note that name again: Halliburton.
Link
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bigrickstallion
on Dec 09, 2005
then no, a published document wouldn't have been needed.
I know it's a terrible thing when the tax paying public demand reasons why thousands of lives and billions of dollars are being wasted in an invasion predicated on a lie isn't it.
Lifes such a bitch for those who preach democracy and invade other nations states to "install" democracy when they actually have to turn around and go through some of the motions of an actual democracy. Why oh why cant the public just learn to shutup and do as they are told? This free thinking is a very unpatriotic exercise.
If theres such concern for attacking the origins of "9-11 evil-doers" then why didn't the US invade Saudi Arabia?
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Dr Guy
on Dec 09, 2005
Precisely. I dunno they bothered to wrap these "8 words" with so much other guff when these are so clear,concise and succinct.
Well, if you were not ESL, you could probably understand more of the document.
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bigrickstallion
on Dec 10, 2005
Well, if you were not ESL, you could probably understand more of the document.
Merry Christmas DG.
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bigrickstallion
on Dec 10, 2005
Is this familiar to you DG?
"We have seen many instances of a liberal, challenged in their beliefs, resort to name calling (and some conservatives, I will grant) and what in essence amounts to yelling here on both JU and the Internet in general."
Not only can you grant but you can also demonstrate.
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