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Published on January 19, 2007 By ShadowWar In Current Events

New lobbying bill to criminalize political bloggers?

One of the Democratic priorities for the new Congress was passage of a lobbyist reform bill, but the introduction of S.1 into the Senate has caused a veritable firestorm of controversy. That's because section 220 of the bill introduces disclosure requirements for "paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying." The Traditional Values Coalition calls this section the "most expansive intrusion on First Amendment rights ever proposed in the United States Senate," while GrassrootsFreedom.com chairman Richard Viguerie says that if it passes, "We'd be living under totalitarianism, not democracy." But are these accurate statements, or is truth the first casualty of rhetoric?

S.1 would change the rules for lobbyists. It bans all gifts from lobbyists, imposes restrictions on trips and accommodation offered to elected officials, and requires all "earmarks" to be identified in spending bills, according to the Congressional Budget Office. But the bill also wants to bring disclosure requirements to the murky world of astroturf groups (so-called because they mimic real grassroots organizations). This is certainly a noble goal; undisclosed corporate money washes through so many front groups now that it can be difficult to tell when opinions are genuine and when they are bought and sold.

Section 220 of the bill "would require grassroots causes, even bloggers, who communicate to 500 or more members of the public on policy matters, to register and report quarterly to Congress the same as the big K. Street lobbyists," said Viguerie in a statement, but the truth isn't that simple.

So what's in the bill?

Section 220 introduces a series of modifications to the 1995 Lobbying Disclosure Act. The most important is that "paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying" now counts as "lobbying" under certain circumstances. Currently, lobbyists are only considered as such if they have contact with elected officials or staff members. Should the new bill become law, disclosure and reporting requirements for lobbyists would be extended to groups who attempt to influence the general public to contact legislators.

This is what has inspired claims that bloggers and activists of all stripes will suddenly be classed as lobbyists and will be monitored by the government. What the bill says, though, is that the rules only apply to people who are paid by clients to encourage the public to contact Congress about specific legislation. The rules do not apply to any communication directed at less than 500 people, they do not apply to any communication directed at a group's current membership, and they do not impose any speech regulations (all that is required is a quarterly report describing where one's money came from and what bills were worked on).

Would this apply to a political blogger? Not usually. Because section 220 is only a series of changes to the Lobbying Disclosure Act, that legislation's other rules still apply. According to OMB Watch, a government accountability watchdog group, the LDA's registration requirement is only triggered by groups that spend more than $24,500 on lobbying semiannually and employ a least one person who spends 20 percent or more of their work time on lobbying. The bill also concerns only the federal government; groups operating at the state level are exempt.

Hmmm so if I don't make money or get money for my blog I am OK. Well thank GOD. I make jack from it and anyway only have 2 reads, y wife and my dog. And I force the dog to read it. I know I know, animal cruelty. But hey, the dog likes it.


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on Jan 19, 2007
Not a problem anymore : it is gone.
on Jan 19, 2007
Not a problem--they'll have to find me first!
on Jan 19, 2007
Not a problem--they'll have to find me first!
on Jan 19, 2007
i'm guessin greywar's link showed something that affirms that the provision is out of the bill, or the bill failed...in either case, the link was broken when i tried it, so i can only assume....

but aside from that...i didn't read the "most important" provision as you interpreted it. i interpreted it as saying that if a person was being paid to go out and blog for a particular interest, that must be disclosed. kind of like every time CNN does a story on AOL they have to disclose their corporate relationship with AOL, time warner....

i have no problem with that if i read it right. i already know there are many supposed "independent" bloggers out there who are actually paid by different interests to spread their word. it would be nice to see them exposed to everyone for who they really are.

a recent example of something i wish there was more disclosure on,,,,i might be the last person on the planet, but i only learned about a month ago that NBC's Andrea Mitchell is ex fed chairman Alan Greenspan's wife. i guess i missed that memo....
on Jan 19, 2007
sorry for the double post,,,enjoy the 5 points:)
on Jan 19, 2007
As we get closer to 2008, I think we'll start to understand and appreciate the need to do SOMETHING about this. I don't think this was the right answer, BUT, when we are besieged with bloggers who aren't bloggers we'll feel the pain.

It doesn't take much effort for a campaign or pac to sit down a few volunteers who create blogs under fake names and post the same old campaign advertising disguised as a blog. Or worse, hack jobs done anonymously to utilize the "lying for justice" phenomenon promoted by people like Moby in the last couple of elections.

Maybe I'm blowing the possibility out of proportion, but with all the possibilities of search engine association, etc., I can't see why they WOULDN'T use such techniques. If we find 20 new blogs per day with nothing but DU rants, we might see the need to do something...

No one has put forth a solution that would be palatable, or that would even work, though.
on Jan 19, 2007
The link did lead to the defeat of that secion as you guessed. it was from Instpundit and his link likely crashed the senate swerver. Additionally the bill actually only would have required action if a blogger was

A. retained by an outside agency as a paid advocate

AND

B. urged people to cantact members of congress exlicitly

AND

C. Either received or spent in excess of $25,000 in the course of the atcual urging (not just blogging)

If ANY of the 3 conditions above were not met *simultaneously* it wouldn't have applied. It was blown way out of proportion and now it doesn't matter in any case.
on Jan 19, 2007
It doesn't take much effort for a campaign or pac to sit down a few volunteers who create blogs under fake names and post the same old campaign advertising disguised as a blog.


It takes a shitload of effort to get these blogs any readership though. thats the bit that matters. Try as hard as you like, you won't be Kos, Instapundit, Powerline, or even Flopping Aces without consistently good blogging or a really huge scoop followed by good blogging.
on Jan 19, 2007
i'm guessin greywar's link showed something that affirms that the provision is out of the bill, or the bill failed...


It is working now. It basically shows where the senate killed the amendment.
on Jan 19, 2007
"It takes a shitload of effort to get these blogs any readership though. thats the bit that matters. Try as hard as you like, you won't be Kos, Instapundit, Powerline, or even Flopping Aces without consistently good blogging or a really huge scoop followed by good blogging."


You miss the point. One blog with a huge readership is, as you said, hard to do. It ISN'T hard, though, to make 100 blogs on 100 different blog sites, and use the same blog promotion junk everyone else uses.

You don't have to be Kos or instapundit, obviously, because we're here and we aren't either. One of our blogs has a moderate amount of voice, but 100, or 1000, or 10,000 such blogs would be a substantial presence, and you could probably create that many a day with a room full of volunteers and a bunch of scripts.

Which would you say would reach more people: Two teenage volunteers knocking on doors with clipboards, or the same two posting constantly on blog sites? We don't get many hits at all, and yet I see JU blogs come up on google searches.

on Jan 19, 2007
It comes down to transparency and accountability. Kos isn't going to get away with anything. If they step over the line, they are accountable for it. One of us, less so, but we still are established in our blogs and aren't liable just to walk off.

A hit-and-run blogger with a throwaway email address might as well be a ghost. That is, unless you go to the trouble of tracing IPs back to the PAC sweatshop that has them making blogs and posting comments, most of which will probably be at the same level as the swiftboat vets and below.

This won't be 'big' blog level stuff. It will be the Col on crack, with a host of rumors and political fables to spread, imho.
on Jan 19, 2007
To SConn1: No, not sorry. It was a slow server. Hope the smiley face is sincere!
on Jan 19, 2007
To SConn1: No, not sorry. It was a slow server. Hope the smiley face is sincere!
on Jan 19, 2007

I disagree.. even if a capaign pays 1000 people to wrtie 100 "fake blogs" a day on random blogsites it is unlikely that most of those will even get a single page hit. Even if they use blgo promoters the hits they get aren't quality activist type hits. heck half of the stuff you get from BE are click-bots and the other half tend to be people who dont read anything on BE at all. Ditto for the other click traders.

Yes you can put out boilerplate party line crap on a few thousand unread blogs but that sort of viral technique is amazingly difficult to pull off (look at Sony's recent PSP viral debacle) sucessfully. most of the companies who do this (and they are out there) hav a long-term deep cover program whereby their operators are used in small groups to infiltrate a place like JU, establish themselves as knowledgeable credible folks who then at some point in the future write reviews or recommendations that are favorable towards a person or product.

Frankly if a politcal campaign puts that much effort into something I would just call them a "blogger" at that point. No registration necessary.

on Jan 19, 2007
To SConn1: No, not sorry. It was a slow server


huh?

Hope the smiley face is sincere!


absolutely! again, enjoy the fiver:)

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